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Hey folks.

Just figured I'd take a minute and share some of the loves of my life with everyone. 

Sadly, a lot of the time, reptiles are viewed as "throw away" pets because people bought them on impulse and failed to do any type of research. For the last 15 years, we've worked with local agencies, taking in reptiles that needed rescuing. 
All four of my boys, here, are rescues and three of the four were center stage in our education and conservation presentations.

This is our old man; Our 11 year old Leopard Gecko, "Gex." He came to us 4 years ago from an excellent family that had lost their home in a fire. 
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This gorgeous little man is "Stinky" the Blue Tongue Skink. He was surrendered by his owner because "he was too messy."

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Now for the true loves of my life, my 3 year old Savannah Monitor boys; Rocko and Joe. Both boys were surrendered as babies for "being too mean." (Baby monitors are instinctively aggressive/defensive. Its their nature.)

My daughter, EJ, and Rocko. Photo taken for the Mooresville Tribune newspaper last year. 

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And this is my sweet baby, Joe. (Total Mama's boy and my personal stalker)
Joe has mild metabolic bone disease, so for his own safety, he's been kept out of the "limelight" and has been pampered and doted over his whole life. I honestly don't think he realizes he's a lizard, much less an apex predator. 

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Yes, the monitors are big. They're 3 and a half feet long, Joe weighs 12 pounds and Rocko weighs 14 pounds, and when they get cold, they both have this terrible need to climb up on "the mom" to get warm. I wouldn't trade them for the world, though!

The most heartbreaking part is, baby Savannahs are readily available in the pet trade and they are dirt cheap. Only 1% of the babies imported into the US will make it to their first year because they are viewed as "disposible." 
This is why we put such a strong emphasis on education. No creature should be looked at as disposible. If kept healthy, these animals are smart, personable and will live for 20 years, sometimes longer.  

Anyways, thank you for letting me share a little part of my world with you all. 
Please, if you have any questions, feel free to ask! 



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You know, I got to thinking about it, and while I put this topic here because I'm an avid herpetoculturists, I'm wondering if it would be better suited over in the pets thread?
Mods, please feel free to move this over if you like. I apologize if it was posted in the wrong section. =)

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Those look really cool.
I have never had a pet lizard or type of thing, but I do know there is a lot to do to care for them.
Especially with lights and temperature.
Where do you get a good lizard?
I know pet stores are bad places to get dogs - and probably all of the other pets there too :(
Like exotic pets - birds, lizards, hermit crabs -- I don't get where you get them or how they should really be cared for. Shouldn't they be free if they can be?


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I couldn't agree more, Thorn. Its devastating to these animals and to the ecosystem they were "harvested" from when they're imported. Thousands of species are critically endangered and some have even gone extinct because of human greed. I'm proud to be the bane of the "jobbers" existence to stop all importation of wild caught and captive hatched reptiles. There are literally THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of breeders in the US. Theres absolutely NO reason for importation!
The Argentine boa, the Dumerils boa, the Woma python and the Emperor scorpion are all on the critically endangered species list and are at high risk of vanishing completely from the wild, but are abundant in the pet trade because of breeders. I reiterate; THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR IMPORTATION!
(I could go on an extensive rant on breeders and their lack of ethics all for the love of money, but I digress... *deep breath*)

Anyways... You're right. The larger chain pet stores are the worst places to find healthy reptiles. They usually get what referred to as 'culls' which are all wild caught or captive hatched and more than likely, they are extremely sick. There are tons and tons of reptile rescues all over the country, all filled with beautiful, healthy, sociable animals just waiting for a forever home. They really don't cost that much to set them up and are very low maintenance in comparison to mammal pets, but keepers have to know their species. If the basic needs aren't met, the animal will get sick and die. (IE: Don't buy a baby Anaconda and decorate it's cage in a desert setting. Better yet, don't buy a baby Anaconda)
Research, research, research. Always know what you're getting in to. A baby Sulcata tortoise is cute and affordable, but did the pet store tell you this is the 3rd largest tortoise in the world and they live for 150 years? Did they tell you that by the time it's 3 years old, it'll need a fenced in back yard with fencing sunk four feet into the ground to keep it from burrowing into your neighbor's back yard?

Another issue we've dealt with (and thankfully it doesn't happen often) is people that have said, "I'm glad we found you. We were just gonna let her go in the woods."
That is a death sentence for an exotic animal. These animals have been socialized, so whats going to happen to that Bearded Dragon when its scared and cold and goes up to the first human it sees to find refuge? Or it doesn't understand to run from a predator because instinctual fear isn't something it was raised with?

These are animals that really should have never been introduced into the pet trade at all. Unfortunately, though, they were and while they might not be cute and cuddly like other pets, someone has to be there to care for them and give them the love and respect they deserve when their owners let them down and just throw them away.

And I am SOOO sorry... I've apparently gone on an indignant rant. =s
Type in a search for reptile shows (Repticon, NARBC, Tinley Park, Hamburg, etc.) and you'll see how huge of an industry this is. Then search for reptile rescues, and you'll see the consequences.


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Yes pet stores are horrible and I refuse to support them as best I can. I rarely buy things from there anymore.
The other day I bought like 3 things from a pet store because they were not at a main store/Wal Mart. For my cat and dogs.
My boyfriend was with me - and we went around looking at the other stuff there. Like snakes - a corn snake I think was there, it was red colored and small - we also saw a black scorpion, small lizards, betta fish, and rats, mice, guinea pigs, etc.
We talked about how we want pet rats someday and before he talked about when his brother had one from the school and then he got one too - when they were little.
When they had the rat is was a previous lab rat - If I remember correctly he said it was white, had red eyes, and had a hole in it's ear from the tag or whatever was on it.
Which made me think where do you get a good rat? At the check out I saw a book about rats and grabbed it to flip thru. It mentioned some site I think a .org site to get rats at. And the book mentioned breeders and rescues and places like that.
I am all for adoption and wanting to get future pets from rescues, shelters, pounds, etc.
I also can go on rants about how people want to breed cats and dogs - and they should NOT! So it's ok - I totally understand.

I would not buy an Andaconda -or any snake- but thanks for the info.
I know my boyfriend has turtles and they require a lot of care - he likes them a lot but does not want to re get one because they live really long. And they can get very big.
Once we had to let almost all my gerbils go in the woods because we could not care for them. Long story short - got 2 gerbils and turns out they were not the same sex. And I felt sorry for them letting them go, figured they wouldn't live long, but who knows.... I kept 3 [mom dad and one baby we somehow found out was a boy] but then they all eventually died.

I will look up that stuff later. I am all about doing research and seeing what fits your lifestyle before you get an animal. Especially with specific dog breeds - many people want a certain dog because someone else has it, or its cute, or whatever other stupid reason. And its like does this dog even fit your lifestyle? Different dogs have different needs and not all dogs fit breed standards. [end beginning of rant XD]

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